"I have been driven many times upon my knees by the
overwhelming conviction that I had no where else to go. My own
wisdom and that of all about me insufficient for that
day." US President Abraham Lincoln (1809 -
1865)
"And Man, whose
heav'n-erected face
The smiles of love adorn, -
Man's inhumanity to
man
Makes countless thousands mourn!"
Robert Burns (1759 -
1796)
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To
redjade
by Alanna Fri Jan 09, 2009
10:57
I'm very grateful to you for
your correction.
There is more on this subject at
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/lincoln-quotes.htm
-- which claims that:
"The quotes were published in
1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister.
He released a pamphlet titled '
Lincoln On
Limitations', which did include a Lincoln quote, but
also added 10 statements written by Boetcker
himself."
I agree with you fully that "when Indymedia
works and is at its best it is self-correcting".
Also,
and possibly like yourself (?), I feel it might help if more
people in Ireland get to learn (via
Indymedia
Ireland) that great minds have already struggled with
the great problems we still have in connection with
"
man's inhumanity to man": for the purpose of
trying to build constructively on earlier efforts, as opposed
to going around and around in time-wasting circles
"reinventing the wheel" -- and "getting stuck" (often
hopelessly it seems) in such struggles.
Though I went
through the "three levels" of education in Ireland myself, I
can't ever recall being taught anything of significance about
such
EXTREMELY important matters as the
"American
Declaration of Independence" (and the reasons for it);
or, about the people (like former US Presidents
Abraham
Lincoln and
Thomas Jefferson for
example) who struggled so hard to create and keep the spirit
of it alive and well, while others very close to them were
doing their damndest to undermine and corrupt it:
unfortunately with great success for the most part.
It
was not without reason that President Lincoln commented:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we
falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed
ourselves".
All we seemed to get in Ireland's
educational system (in effect) was the
"London &
Rome" viewpoint of world history and politics - a
viewpoint which I believe has left many short-changed and
severely disadvantaged. The same problem also seems to linger
on through our "main stream media" of course. Though the
"American" view of the world is all too frequently thrust upon
us by the main stream media these days, it is the
"Bush" view we mostly get -- which has very
little (I would say almost nothing) in common with the views
and associated hard work of individuals such as Thomas
Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln (who was
assassinated in the end of
course).
All of this appears to me to be particularly
relevant at the present time -- as it seems to be the case
that
President-elect Barack Obama is a great fan
of former US President Abraham Lincoln!!
This situation should become
much more clear on January 20th -- only 11 more days to
go.Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lincoln%2C+Obama&btnG=Search===========================
The
above text has been copied from the following
Indymedia
(Ireland) location:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/90365#comment242256===========================
Man's
inhumanity to man
by Carl Fri Jan 09, 2009
09:20
"I have been driven many
times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had
no where else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me
insufficient for that day." From
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lincoln%2C+%22I+have+been+driven+many+times+upon+my+knees%22%2C+Wikipeda&btnG=Search
Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Man%27s+inhumanity+to+man&btnG=Search
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The above text has
been copied from the following
Indymedia (Ireland)
location:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/90472#comment242239
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"Many
and sharp the num'rous ills
Inwoven with our frame!
More
pointed still we make ourselves
Regret, remorse, and
shame!
And Man, whose heav'n-erected face
The smiles of
love adorn, -
Man's inhumanity to
man
Makes countless thousands mourn!"
Robert
Burns ( 1759- 1796)
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Corruption, Crime, and
Cover-Ups: "The Constitution has been
hijacked" (Registered letter to Prime Minister Brian Cowan
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