[Celtic Party] "Man's inhumanity to man"

"I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had no where else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me insufficient for that day."  US President Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) "And Man, whose heav'n-erected face The smiles of love adorn, - Man's inhumanity to man Makes countless thousands mourn!" Robert Burns (1759 - 1796) =========================== To redjade by Alanna Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:57 I'm very grateful to you for your correction. There is more on this subject at http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/ l/lincoln- quotes.htm -- which claims that: "The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister.  He released a pamphlet titled 'Lincoln On Limitations', which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements written by Boetcker himself." I agree with you fully that "when Indymedia works and is at its best it is self-correcting" . Also, and possibly like yourself (?), I feel it might help if more people in Ireland get to learn (via Indymedia Ireland) that great minds have already struggled with the great problems we still have in connection with "man's inhumanity to man": for the purpose of trying to build constructively on earlier efforts, as opposed to going around and around in time-wasting circles "reinventing the wheel" -- and "getting stuck" (often hopelessly it seems) in such struggles. Though I went through the "three levels" of education in Ireland myself, I can't ever recall being taught anything of significance about such EXTREMELY important matters as the "American Declaration of Independence" (and the reasons for it); or, about the people (like former US Presidents Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson for example) who struggled so hard to create and keep the spirit of it alive and well, while others very close to them were doing their damndest to undermine and corrupt it: unfortunately with great success for the most part. It was not without reason that President Lincoln commented: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves". All we seemed to get in Ireland's educational system (in effect) was the "London & Rome" viewpoint of world history and politics - a viewpoint which I believe has left many short-changed and severely disadvantaged. The same problem also seems to linger on through our "main stream media" of course. Though the "American" view of the world is all too frequently thrust upon us by the main stream media these days, it is the "Bush" view we mostly get -- which has very little (I would say almost nothing) in common with the views and associated hard work of individuals such as Jefferson and Lincoln. All of this appears to me to be particularly relevant at the present time -- as it seems to be the case that President-elect Barack Obama is a great fan of former US President Lincoln!! This situation should become much more clear on January 20th -- only 11 more days to go. Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lincoln%2C+Obama&btnG=Search =========================== The above text has been copied from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location: http://www.indymedia. ie/article/90365#comment242256 =========================== Man's inhumanity to man by Carl Fri Jan 09, 2009 09:20 "I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had no where else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me insufficient for that day."  From http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&q=Lincoln%2C+ %22I+have+been+driven+ many+times+ upon+my+knees%22%2C+Wikipeda&btnG=Search Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Man's+inhumanity+to+man&btnG=Search =========================== The above text has been copied from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location: http://www.indymedia. ie/article/90472#comment242239 =========================== "Many and sharp the num'rous ills Inwoven with our frame! More pointed still we make ourselves Regret, remorse, and shame! And Man, whose heav'n-erected face The smiles of love adorn, - Man's inhumanity to man Makes countless thousands mourn!" Robert Burns ( 1759- 1796) ===========================  Global Cesspit of Corruption, Crime, and Cover-Ups:    "The Constitution has been hijacked" (Registered letter to Prime Minister Brian Cowan T.D. dated May 9th 2008): http://www.humanrig htsireland. com/PrimeMinisterCowen/ 9May2008/Email.htm =========================== Human Rights (Ireland): http://www.humanrightsireland.com ===========================