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The Republic of Ireland's October 2013 Referendums, and The Irish Diaspora ...

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‘The People’s Referendum’ ...  
by W. Finnerty Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:02

This morning, and probably prompted (I imagine?) by this coming Friday's (October 4th 2013) "Official Referendum" in the Republic of Ireland, I received an e-mail from an "anonymous sender" which contained the text in the first section below.

Good ideas, which, at the very least, are well worth seriously thinking about, can suddenly appear from anybody, anywhere, at any time -- and anonymously!! -- it seems?

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On the 15th of October, the second instalment of ‘The People’s Referendum’ will take place outside government buildings in Dublin 2. Large crowds of people will gather outside Leinster House to voice their discontent at the government in relation to issues they feel aggrieved over. Usually at such events, people turn up, shout, then go home.

On this day however, rather than shout, we will vote. Imagine the scenes as thousands of people line up to cast their votes on some of the most important issues never to have been dealt with on this island. The referendum will be streamed live for the world to witness. There will also be an opportunity for the Irish Diaspora to cast their vote via the online poll. The government may have forgotten about you, but your country never will. This will be a hugely positive and productive event.

The above text (in this section) has come from:

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I've had a look at the "online poll" referred to in the text above, and at the time I viewed it, it contained 3 questions (for deciding by ‘The People’s Referendum’). Details of the questions on the list can be found at:

Personally, and if it was for me to decide (which it's not), I would very much like to see the following question added to the list:

"With Article 6.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann (the Constitution of the Republic of Ireland and as such the SUPREME LAW of the Republic of Ireland) in mind, would the people of the Republic of Ireland like their Government (Executive, Legislative, and Judicial) to take FULL responsibility for the money-supply used by the people of the Republic of Ireland: in a manner which embraces the debt-free and interest-free principles and practices successfully implemented and used by former Republic of The United States of America President Abraham Lincoln during the American Civil War (1861 to 1865); and, which he planned to help export to all other nations who might decide they would like to use them: just before he was suddenly assassinated, only eight weeks or so into what might have been his second four-year term in The White House?

The "principles and practices" referred to in the paragraph immediately above, which in reality date back to the "Golden Days" of ancient Athens and Aristotle (as far as I know), are nevertheless in more recent times often associated with the following Abraham Lincoln quotes:

"Democracy (as in 'government of the people, by the people, for the people') will rise superior to the money power."

"Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity."

Article 6.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann (from

"All powers of government, legislative, executive and judicial, derive, under God, from the people, whose right it is to designate the rulers of the State and, in final appeal, to decide all questions of national policy, according to the requirements of the common good."


Related E-mail to the United Nations dated May 17th 2012:


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"Money is the creature of law, and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national government"


Related Issue ("How to Dethrone the Imperial Judiciary"):

'One thing which is COMMON to both jurisdictions though is this: books or no books, nobody has found a way -- to date -- to actually STOP the criminal abuses connected with the "Imperial Judiciaries" in either of the two "republican" (so called) jurisdictions in question. Quite the opposite in reality, in that the slyly hidden constitutionally abusive "ways" (of which there are many) of the legal professions involved, headed by their respective judiciaries in the two different jurisdictions, appear (to me at least) to be growing by the day: and in a manner which the general public is, for the most part, entirely ignorant of in both jurisdictions.'

'Put in a nutshell, the "Imperial Judiciaries" are making mince-meat (smithereens) out of genuinely democratic republican "government of the people, by the people, for the people" (constitutions): in both so-called "Republics" (i.e. the Republic of Ireland, and the Republic of the United States of America); and, they always will: unless "the people" of one or both jurisdictions can find a way to permanently decommission them by peaceful and lawful means.'

The two excerpts just above have come from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location:


"Mother Ireland": ESPECIALLY for the Irish Diaspora,  wherever YOU may happen to be in the world just now ...

"And I shall feel how soft you tread above me,
And then my grave will richer, sweeter be;
For you will bend and tell me that you love me,
And I shall rest in peace until you come to me."

The above text forms one of several slightly different versions of the final verse of an old Irish Song which, over the past hundred years or so, has come to be much appreciated and enjoyed by a great many people all around the world.

Elvis Presley (for example) loved this song, and once commented: "It was written by the angels".
His family arranged to have it played at his funeral service in 1977:
As some people see things: "Elvis did not die; he simply returned to his spiritual home in Heaven ("Tír na nÓg" in the Celtic culture): after he had provided 'humanity as a whole' with his much valued 'spiritual legacy'; 'spiritual' as in 'non-material', that is."

The excerpts just above in this section are from the following www location:


Human Rights Ireland "Opportunity Knocks" List:


The above text is based on a comment dated Wednesday, October 2nd 2013 at the following Indymedia (Ireland) location:


Later today a full rich-text copy of this e-mail will be placed at the following Human Rights Ireland www location:


Human Rights Ireland:



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"Pistols for two Rostov, and coffee for one."


Which of the two  "political systems"  will  "the people"  of the world end up with?










The Future of Politics and Law in the Internet Age

 (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible."

 "Constitutionalism   is descriptive of a complicated concept, deeply imbedded in historical experience, which subjects the officials who exercise governmental powers to the limitations of a higher law. Constitutionalism proclaims the desirability of the rule of law as opposed to rule by the arbitrary judgment or mere fiat of public officials…. Throughout the literature dealing with modern public law and the foundations of statecraft the central element of the concept of constitutionalism is that in political society government officials are not free to do anything they please in any manner they choose; they are bound to observe both the limitations on power and the procedures which are set out in the supreme, constitutional law of the community. It may therefore be said that the touchstone of constitutionalism is the concept of limited government under a higher law." 

Related  Open News  Topics ...

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"As the adve'sawies have wefused a weconciliation, please pwoceed. Take your pistols, and at the word thwee, ... War and Peace ..."
Related Indymedia (Ireland) Comment:
by W. Finnerty Thu May 16, 2013 12:30
Please note that, for technical reasons beyond my control, the dozen or so "Internet Hyperlinks" provided in the "Related Open News Topics" section below will appear as "dead text" in this "Indymedia (Ireland)" comment. However, the original "live working" versions of these hyperlinks can be found (and used) in the edition of the message-text at the www address provided above; and, they were included in this morning's e-mail to the United Nations because, between them, they seem (to me) to provide a pretty good indication/"feel" of just how MASSIVE, VARIED, WIDESPREAD, and DEEPLY ENTRENCHED, the global "government corruption, crime, cover-ups, and impunity" problem really is at the present time: and, most important of all perhaps, I think they also, as a set, supply a tangible "handle" (of sorts) on the very slimy, very extensive, and often very blurred "DENIAL (genuine and/or pretend) MINDSET PROBLEM", which continues to so powerfully, and frequently INVISIBLY, and often from "way behind the scenes", to "fuel and drive" the whole accelerating global phenomenon of "government corruption, crime, cover-ups, and impunity". Has anything really changed fundamentally among the arrogant "ruling elites", I often find myself asking myself, since the days (in the 1400s AD) of the "Borgias Pope Family" in Holy Rome: "The Original Crime Family of The Vatican", as they have been labelled by some?'
'A bit like other aspects of the universe itself perhaps, it may be that this particularly nasty MINDSET "type social problem" (as I see it), in very large part a human-brain "software problem" I suspect, which I have long viewed as a major threat for "humanity as a whole", and maybe even for the whole of "Life on Earth" possibly -- when and if the constantly-lurking risk, above and below the surface of the Earth (particularly in the oceans of our World), of "the makings" of a  "Hell on Earth" Thermonuclear World War Three   is taken into account -- is a problem that is half-invisibly expanding outwards (and inwards as well at the same time in its particular case!!) at something approaching the speed of light? Or at least the speed of sound perhaps, and with much of the credit for the "expansion in all directions" due to the bankster owned/controlled MSM (Main Stream Media).'
The two excerpts just above formed part of an Indymedia (Ireland) comment made on Thursday May 16th, 2013 at 12:30.
The full Thursday May 16th 2013 12:30 Indymedia (Ireland) comment which the excerpts were taken from can be viewed at: 
Related Link 1:
"Borgias, Pope Alexander VI, 1492–1503, Vatican, government corruption, crime, cover-ups, and impunity ..."
 Related Link 2: 
" The Future of Politics and Law in the Internet Age, Human Rights Ireland ..."

Bratach na hÉireann


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Article 6.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann (the Constitution of the Republic of Ireland):

"All powers of government, legislative, executive and judicial, derive, under God, from the people, whose right it is to designate the rulers of the State and, in final appeal, to decide all questions of national policy, according to the requirements of the common good."








 "technological advances" and the Third Global Diaspora Forum:


"Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray ...

... that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth."


The two pieces of text just above are from two different speeches made by former
President of the Republic of the United States of America Abraham Lincoln.


Abraham Lincoln (16th US President): Born on February 12th 1809; Died April 15th 1865.
(Assassinated by a single bullet fired into the back of his head at Ford's Theatre in Washington DC on the evening of April 14th 1865)



"I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go.
My own wisdom, and that of all about me, seemed insufficient for the day."


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