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Tuesday January 24 2012 07:30 PM PUBLIC MEETING: Protect Dalkey Island & Killiney Bay From Oil Drill - All Welcomedublin | environment |
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Large Oil Drill close to Shore off Dalkey planned for this year Is it Good Bye to the Dalkey Dolphins ????????? PUBLIC
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Jump To Comment: 1234567891011121314151617Some of the recent press coverage on this can be found at:
This is the 'unsightly' oil rig that's got Dalkey residents up in arms
http://www.herald.ie/news/this-is-the-unsightly-oil-rig-thats-got-dalkey-residents-up-in-arms-2993925.html
Campaign to Stop Planned Oil Drill off Dalkey Island
http://afloat.ie/port-news/coastal-notes/item/17762-campaign-to-stop-planned-oil-drill-off-dalkey-island
There has been some discussion over on boards.ie on the thread: Major Oil Find Off Dalkey!!!!!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76540385
And there is already an online petition going on facebook at this link
www.facebook.com/protectdublindalkeykilliney.nooildrillspill2012
Below is a video of Dolphins in Dalkey Bay in Sept 2010
Embedded Video Description: Dolphins, Killiney Bay, Dublin, Ireland, September 11th 2010
.............If you need any help don't be afraid to ask your country cousins.
Whats the problem with drilling for oil or is that too much disruption for the toffee nosed wealthy elite in Dalkey and Killiney? some of us need jobs
Like I said, welcome to our world. You'll have to get used to gobshites like this one very quickly.
'Whats the problem...'?
Which rock have you been snoozing under, or was it a Shell?
Bray-head..well it does have a nice asinine echo.
@ Ferdia-we have every right to use our natural resourses.
@ Opios-you have an opinion on everything yet never substantiate.
The people of Bray in need of jobs would love a drill in Dalkey. We could even get some of the local solicitors involved.
Support the Drill.
Actually I thought opus was being quite clever and funny here!
asinine echo ..... bray .... ass sound .... an echo comes off a big rock(like bray head)... asanine=obstinate or stupid like a donkey etc etc... heh!
and I think maybe you spelt the first part of your name wrong too richard!!! And I presume you use the short version like cheney does.
Jobs my ass. At best some temporary bad jobs. They bring in mostly experienced guys from aberdeen etc. Maybe a few locals will get the dog work dangerous temporary jobs for low pay. then they finish up building it and all that's left is to steal all the oil by sucking it all away from us through their pipe, leaving the place in a mess and doing a runner afterwards and letting their highly paid lawyers (and no doubt paid off politicians) tie it up in court forcing us to live with the consequences. Standard oil company policy.
the people of dalkey should invite S2S up quickly in order to learn more about their experience.
I think it'll be easier to mobilise more people in dalkey than in ballinaboy though, as it's far less isolated.
Here's some links about sir tony o'reilly who has a 40% stake in providence oil and runs independent news and media group:
http://politico.ie/component/content/article/2126.html.
bio:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_O%27Reilly
I think we need to start a "don't buy the independent or any other IN&M group publications" campaign
Hit him in his pocket. Buy other Irish newspapers instead if you are bothered about saving jobs.
Although why anyone would want to save the highly overpaid jobs of this motley crew, I really don't know!! :
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/
If I were a local resident in the Dalkey area, the first thing I would do is to respectfully ask all of the local TDs to raise the issue -- again -- in Dáil Éireann, of why the Republic of Ireland Government (Executive, Legislative, and Judicial), still has not taken the necessary steps to have the international United Nations Aarhus Convention Agreement ratified.
Well over 13 years after we (i.e. our Government), signed this extremely important, and extremely democratic environmental/human rights agreement on June 25th 1998, and as can be seen at the UN address just below, the Republic of Ireland seems to be the only full member of the EU which still has a completely blank space in the "Ratification, Acceptance (A), Approval (AA), Accession (a)" Section":
http://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=XXVII-13&chapter=27&lang=en
General Information about the Aarhus Convention Agreement can be found at:
http://www.unece.org/env/pp/ratification.html
The full text of the Aarhus Convention Agreement can be viewed at:
http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/env/pp/documents/cep43e.pdf
This would offer me a great oppurtunity to get off the jobseekers allowance. The people of the areas need to open there minds with experience in this field I will be applying for a job here if their are any available. Sorry if this upsets the know alls but we need to use our natural resources and at the same time in this recession find jobs to feed my children. Drill? Hell yeah!
You must be deluled to think this is going to provide jobs but then that is not what your post is about. It is actually about trying to polarize the debate and setup a false choice of jobs or environment. This is the type of rubbish we've heard for years.
In such contrived debates the idea is to reduce the role and importance of the environment to zero. That way it makes it easier to destroy it and when the inevitable damage does occur, the media 'debate' has already sidelined such that it gets no real coverage.
Another interesting point is that this sort of argument is made in the context of the financial meltdown in this country where just 10 or so individuals are responsible for about 10 to 20 billion euros and the population is being screwed to bail them out and the social structure of our society is being sacificed and of course our natural resources are being given away for free, and yet we have this Bray dude wants to work on a dangerous oil drilling platform, for probably long hours and little pay and is prepared to see his coastal environment trashed and polluted so that he can pay a whole pile of taxes to bail out these gangsters. Let there be no mistake that the people behind this oil deal are from the same class as the ones we're bailing out -the criminal elite.
If anything it is more likely you will get a job cleaning the beaches of oil when the owners of the rig cut corners
We can protect the environment and still have real jobs. Bray Head makes a good point and most of us here in Shankill could do with jobs for our sons. Was at the meeting and it was like a middle class function or the TV show "Midsommer Murders".
"We can protect the environment and still have real jobs. "
And the tooth fairy exists, as does santa and the sky is filled with oinking noises as flocks of pigs glide overhead!
Get real. We all know how these projects go down at this stage. There are always messy spills when dealing with oil. Its inevitable. especially when the companies involved often have a culture of cutting corners, overworking the slaves and minimising expensive safety measures to increase profits as much as possible.
As for the few leftover crap temporary and hazardous jobs they'll make available for paddies? well good luck fighting for those. And even more good luck if you actually get one. You might need it to survive with your health intact.
Of course you won't make enough out of your temporary job on the rig to retire in luxury somewhere with clean water, air and beaches though, unlike the shareholders. And the reduction in the value of your local property as a result of the area becoming an oil shithole may even offset all your earnings.
And the meagre tax money paid (if there's any after all the exploration expenses have been "creatively" written off of course) will just go straight to german banks.
Whatever argument could be made for a nationalised oil company extracting the oil for the full benefit of the Irish people, there is absolutely none under the current circumstances and we are best served leaving it under the sea until such a time as we can benefit in this manner instead of giving it away and taxpayers having to deal with any filthy mess greedy sir Tony and co. inevitably make.
If the 'Ratsllagh Residents Association' does indeed exist, could we hear from some more of its members as to whether Gretta is
expressing their consensual response to this proposal. We're well used to this type of buinneach in Erris where oil company activists
and local vested interests portray thamselves in the various media as being odrinary, salt-of-the earth Joe Bloggs local types who are
quite happy to have their future shattered because there's going to be 'jobs'. You guys who are opposing this proposal better be ready to
challenge this type of cheap advocacy everywhere you encounter it. Providence are obviously up and running on this as evidenced by the
types of comments we find here from these people, all of whom sign on with a 'local' name - 'Bray', ' Bray Head', 'Ratsallagh', etc. Get up
to speed fast on how your'e going to respond to this so-called local 'support' for the project, or before you know it you'll be fighting
amongst yourselves. And having been involved in the Erris story from day one, I know whereof I speak.
The majority of people in Dalkey and Killiney want the drill. We should not let a small group of NIMBY's even annoy us:it's going ahead. In the depths of unemployment this gives hope and it will have a knock on effect on the local Economy. In response to Ferdia-if you lived in the areas you mention you might see the plight of the unemployed:walking down to the dole queue week after week knowing your money is spent before you get there. Look at the bigger picture. We need to use what we have and this oil is the medicine badly needed.
It appears that Sea Fisheries Protection Authority (SFPA) executive chairman Peter Whelan – holds substantial shares and is on the board of the US Oil and Gas company. The Dublin-based exploration company, founded by the late Waterford businessman Jimmy Guiry, holds assets in Nevada, USA.
Apparently he purchased 400,000 shares in the oil company and was given a further 55,000 shares for "services rendered"!!!
what services???
Simon Coveney's response to this was :
“it does not appear at this point that there is any conflict of interest issue arising in this matter”, and said he was “not in a position to comment any further at this time”
Hmmm..... Sounds "fishy" to me!
Speaking of fisheries, Nice catch Eamonn O'Cuiv!! ;-)
link:
http://www.shelltosea.com/content/minister-row-over-regulators-oil-firm-role-0
If we don't clean up our politicians first, we will end up having to clean up our coastline after we have given our resources away for next to nothing, and make no mistake, history suggests that nobody will be paying for any cleanup but the irish citizens.
FYI, Fred, I'm an Erris native, born and bred, and I've just gone through 11 years of living life under the threat of the type of abomination
that you, either in innocence or through mischief, are seeking to visit on your community and vour people. Don't talk to me about
unemployment. I was an emigrant from this country for 25 years. When I came home to Erris in the 90's, and heard about the gas find, I,
like so many others, was upbeat about the future of our region, because we thought, in our naivety, that this project would be carried out
properly with maximum benefit to this poverty-stricken, marginalised part of Ireland. 11 years later, the benefits, such as they were,
have come and gone. They mainly consisted of the enrichment of a few local businessmen who opened their doors to Shell, 18
months of 'local' jobs, and anyone who worked in there will tell you it was no picnic (I wouldn't accept being called 'Paddy' in England.
Imagine what it was like to hear that epithet used against Errismen in their own back yard. Well, it happenned). I suspect that you have
an ulterior agenda here, I think you're trolling in order to try to diminish the perception of the threat your community is under from Big Oil.
Whatever the case may be, don't you dare think you can use an emotive word like unemployment to score points off someone who can
actually point to a life as an emigrant because this country cuoldn't supply him with a job. Having said all that, if I were starving in the
want of a few pounds, I'd take the boat again tomorrow morning before I'd take a red cent from a company that met our concerns with
jailings, violence, media disinformation and bribery at local and national governmental level. Having said all that, if you want the oil that
badly, go for it and enjoy.
Response to "lefty" at Mon Jan 30, 2012 09:52
And, "speaking of the United Nations International Aarhus Convention Agreement" -- which is extremely important I believe in connection with this Dalkey oil-drilling environmental issue -- I've often wondered why the present Fianna Fáil Deputy Leader Éamon Ó Cuív T.D. (who was a former Republic of Ireland Government Minister on a number of occasions throughout the long period he has served as a TD) never seems to have done anything worthwhile (that I know of) to ensure that the Republic of Ireland Government (Executive, Legislative, Judicial) took the necessary steps, which they have a duty to take, for the purpose of having this international Agreement "laid before Dáil Éireann": as required under Article 29.5.1 of the Republic of Ireland's Constitution (Bunreacht na hEireann), which is of course the highest law of the land.
As can be seen at the www Eircom location provided immediately below, former Republic of Ireland Government Minister Éamon Ó Cuív T.D. is number 8 on the list of the e-mail dated October 29, 2004 regarding this very important Aarhus Convention environmental matter:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~williamfinnerty/EuConstitutionWarnings.htm
"If you know of any good reason why the international Aarhus Convention Agreement signed on June 25th 1998 has not yet been 'laid before Dail Eireann', as required under Article 29.5.1 of the Republic of Ireland's Constitution, it would be very much appreciated if you could let me know of it please."
The excerpt just above is from the e-mail dated November 6, 2004, which was also copied to former Minister Éamon Ó Cuív T.D), as can be seen at:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~williamfinnerty/AarhusAgreementWhy.htm
Within days of I sending the November 6th 2004 e-mail at the Eircom www address just above, Garda Tom Kenny (local police officer in New Inn Village, County Galway) launched the Republic of Ireland's second attempt to corruptly criminalise me, by very suddenly demanding, at very short notice, that I appear in Loughrea District Court: even though I could not find any lawyer, or any law-firm, willing to provide me with the legal representation I needed to prepare my defence against the false charges that were being laid against me by Enda Hoey (Enforcement Officer) of Galway County Council. To this day, and despite my numerous efforts to do so, I still cannot find any legal representation regarding the growing set of criminal abuses which Mr Hoey and his colleagues at Galway County Council initiated against me in 2002.